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More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 10th, 2012, 11:57 pm
by ComradeGhost
Hello Fragmer, today I want to discuss about setinfo. I think it could use a little bit more commands inside it. I prefer adding one specifically for the server join date. Blocks built, basically your /info on a server could be /setinfo'd.

Thanks, Ghost. (By the way I remember meeting you on a server with _BjorN64_, just wondering if you still remember me. :P)

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 11th, 2012, 3:44 am
by DreamingInsane
No offense, I don't see how this could be useful. If you want to raise your blocks made or deleted, just get an auto clicker?

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 11th, 2012, 2:05 pm
by BobKare
DreamingInsane wrote:No offense, I don't see how this could be useful. If you want to raise your blocks made or deleted, just get an auto clicker?
If so, why is the TotalTime tag useful? You can just farm hours by afk'ing, and move a little once in awhile.
And what if you want to decrease your block count?

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 11th, 2012, 4:08 pm
by DreamingInsane
BobKare wrote:
DreamingInsane wrote:No offense, I don't see how this could be useful. If you want to raise your blocks made or deleted, just get an auto clicker?
If so, why is the TotalTime tag useful? You can just farm hours by afk'ing, and move a little once in awhile.
And what if you want to decrease your block count?
We aren't talking about TotalTime and the way to raise up hours on the server, silly.
I understand your comparison, and since you made it sound so easy, why doesn't he just farm blocks then?

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 11th, 2012, 4:29 pm
by Element_Equinox
In what situation would you genuinely need to change the date you joined the server or to change the amount of blocks placed/deleted/drawn? I'd imagine it would be easy to implement, but I don't see a practical use behind it.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 12:57 am
by boblol0909
Actually, I think all playerdb fields should be changeable.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 6:22 am
by ComradeGhost
Well, if they have a couple of PlayerDB's available for edit, why not have the others? It's just a useful command, and if you're disgracing it then disgrase /setinfo in general.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 12:34 pm
by Sanjar Khan
ComradeGhost wrote:if you're disgracing it then disgrase /setinfo in general.
Well no, they won't, because removing unjust kicks from someone's db is more useful in their eyes than setting the amount of blocks placed at some arbitrary number

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 3:08 pm
by BobKare
I personally don't see any point in BlocksPlaced and BlocksDeleted being non-changeable, as TotalTime is. With this I don't mean that changing TotalTime is unnecessary, but neither is the others.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 12th, 2012, 6:46 pm
by fragmer
Can you list specific types of player information (PlayerInfo fields) that you would like to be changeable with /SetInfo, and rationale for each one? I can add it.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 5:22 am
by ComradeGhost
Erm.. BlockCount, JoinDate, BanCount, (How much times you've banned players) KickCount (How much times you've kicked players), Block draw count, IP Adress, and terminating accounts from IP adress. Thanks for putting your time into this.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 8:09 am
by Hellenion
IP would be nice to disjoin lingering accounts from ones /info.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 9:44 am
by Sanjar Khan
ComradeGhost wrote:Erm.. BlockCount, JoinDate, BanCount, (How much times you've banned players) KickCount (How much times you've kicked players), Block draw count, IP Adress, and terminating accounts from IP adress. Thanks for putting your time into this.
and rationale for each one?

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 1:08 pm
by Mark-b
Element_Equinox wrote:In what situation would you genuinely need to change the date you joined the server or to change the amount of blocks placed/deleted/drawn? I'd imagine it would be easy to implement, but I don't see a practical use behind it.
Long ago when i had the account 'mark_b', it got stolen so i had to make a new one named me_mark_b, and it took me one year before me and the owners of a server relised /infoswap. i suggested /infomerge so this problem of mine would be fixed but it was made clear to me that it would be too hard put in. So if f adds more /setinfo things i could merge the info for both of my accounts manually. That's one situation where it could be useful.
fragmer wrote:Can you list specific types of player information (PlayerInfo fields) that you would like to be changeable with /SetInfo, and rationale for each one? I can add it.
That question may not be aimed at me, but my opinion is:
RankChangeDate ; RankChangedBy - would be useful if some staff mess up promotions and demotion, with the one that is already in the /setinfo PreviousRank.
MutedUntil - I don't know if this is what I see in my head but maybe able to change that to '0' so if the player is offline you don't have to wait for him/her to come back to unmute them. (same for IsFrozen)
FirstLoginDate - This would be useful for what I said above to answer Elements question.
I don't know if all of them are not already in /setinfo but if some are, just say it :)

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: September 7th, 2012, 9:56 pm
by OfficerFlake
Hi. May I also suggest:

RankDate
KickDate
KickedCount

this way we can remove any blemishes left by kicks or rank changes we change our minds on.

For example, until recently, I wen't 43 weeks without a kick... :(

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: September 7th, 2012, 11:28 pm
by Sanjar Khan
timeskicked is already an option. Your other two suggestions are vague.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: September 30th, 2012, 10:45 am
by BobKare
Hellenion wrote:IP would be nice to disjoin lingering accounts from ones /info.
Just kinda bringing this back up.

I think /SetInfo IP would be a great addition. Mostly for the use Hellenion stated. I suppose it would create a random IP for the player specified, or you could have an opinion to decide which IP to use, as byte1, byte2, byte3 and byte4 arguments?

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: September 30th, 2012, 12:50 pm
by Hellenion
BobKare wrote:
Hellenion wrote:IP would be nice to disjoin lingering accounts from ones /info.
Just kinda bringing this back up.

I think /SetInfo IP would be a great addition. Mostly for the use Hellenion stated. I suppose it would create a random IP for the player specified, or you could have an opinion to decide which IP to use, as byte1, byte2, byte3 and byte4 arguments?
And it can be used to for when the server is on balanced security and some player has a "Could not verify player name" error.

Re: More additions to Setinfo.

Posted: October 1st, 2012, 12:22 am
by fragmer
Alright, I'll add "/SetInfo <Name> IP"