Demotion Appeal- Troy_Hinkle

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Demotion Appeal- Troy_Hinkle

Post by Troy »

When: 11/4/12
Who: Ninjacat
Reason Given: "Demotion reason: Kick abuse"

why i should be re-promoted-
Why i got demoted was over my head, it seems like when I take initiative to help out one way or another i get threatened demotion, I see this guy log in and I simply /Info him and it turns out his ratio is 1- aprox. 150 in 1 min so i say something and like usual its ignored untill i teleport to him then everyone jumps into it and Ninjacat said something that he was going to check it out but i remember another staff stating that using a program to grief is instant ban

[2012-11-03 19:14:04] (IRC) Ninjacpu: Chaos
[2012-11-03 19:14:07] Block #1 marked at (171,85,60). Place mark #2.
[2012-11-03 19:14:10] (IRC) Ninjacpu: Any tool assited griefing
[2012-11-03 19:14:11] (IRC) Ninjacpu: aka
[2012-11-03 19:14:12] Cuboid/Normal(Air): Processing ~77 blocks.
[2012-11-03 19:14:12] Cuboid/Normal(Air): Finished in 0s, updated 33 blocks.
[2012-11-03 19:14:14] (IRC) Ninjacpu: WoM
[2012-11-03 19:14:15] Player qiapaoki joined GuestPixelArt
[2012-11-03 19:14:17] (IRC) Ninjacpu: is an instant ban
- chat log of 11-3-12

so i kick him as the veteran who is suppost to be taking charge is yelling an operator who is away during the incident to have permission.

ChaosConductor: do i ban mini craft?
[2012-11-04 01:17:55] ChaosConductor: toxicz1
[2012-11-04 01:17:58] ChaosConductor: toxic't
[2012-11-04 01:17:58] Troy_Hinkle: has to be using autoclicker
[2012-11-04 01:18:00] ChaosConductor: roxic
[2012-11-04 01:18:04] ChaosConductor: toxic
[2012-11-04 01:18:21] minicraftguy: this is for being a dick head before
[2012-11-04 01:18:21] Joined world main
[2012-11-04 01:18:21] ChaosConductor: Atoxiclunchbox! do i can him?
[2012-11-04 01:18:27] Please specify a kick reason.
[2012-11-04 01:18:29] ChaosConductor: wut u mean mini?
[2012-11-04 01:18:29] (IRC) Ninjacat: I'll get on give me a sec
[2012-11-04 01:18:34] Player ChaosConductor joined main
[2012-11-04 01:18:36] minicraftguy was kicked by Troy_Hinkle: grief... wait
[2012-11-04 01:18:36] > for ninja

but shortly after that i get demoted and turns out this guy is free to go, almost like i shot some guy breaking into my house but he gets to leave to the hospital and after that he is free

Info of person i kicked

About minicraftguy: Last seen 41m59s ago (Kick)
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Free account, 1 logins since 4 Nov 2012.
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] 1 accounts (1 banned) on IP: minecraftguy56*
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Built 1; deleted 360 blocks; wrote 2 messages.
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Got kicked 1 times. Last kick 41m59s ago by Troy_Hinkle
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Kick reason: grief... wait for ninja
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Rank is guest (default).

and when i try to get ninja to undo his actions its like he is hiding something, I had a picture of the grief but my computer shut off as i had to go do something but this is what he said when i asked him to undo his last action so i could get a picture of the grief.

[2012-11-04 01:27:06] 3m20s ago: Ninjacat101 placed Iron (UndoneOther)
[2012-11-04 01:27:16] Troy_Hinkle: ninjacat placed iron undoneother
[2012-11-04 01:27:22] Ninjacat101: Yep
[2012-11-04 01:27:25] Troy_Hinkle: undo your actions for 4 min
[2012-11-04 01:27:25] Ninjacat101: as I said
[2012-11-04 01:27:26] swakamn: is there a way to match ip adress with and online
[2012-11-04 01:27:26] > player and t
[2012-11-04 01:27:28] Troy_Hinkle: from minicraftguy
[2012-11-04 01:27:30] swakamn: offline?
[2012-11-04 01:27:36] Ninjacat101: There is no point
[2012-11-04 01:27:41] Troy_Hinkle: yea there is
[2012-11-04 01:27:42] Troy_Hinkle: undo it
[2012-11-04 01:27:46] Troy_Hinkle: so i have evidence
[2012-11-04 01:27:49] Ninjacat101: for?
[2012-11-04 01:27:53] Troy_Hinkle: appeal
[2012-11-04 01:27:55] Ninjacat101: .
[2012-11-04 01:27:57] ChaosConductor: troy, shut up and make an appeal
[2012-11-04 01:27:59] Ninjacat101: Appealing what exactly?
[2012-11-04 01:28:00] Ninjacat101: No
[2012-11-04 01:28:03] Troy_Hinkle: i need evidence
[2012-11-04 01:28:04] Ninjacat101: Don't make an appeal
[2012-11-04 01:28:07] Troy_Hinkle: i am
[2012-11-04 01:28:17] ChaosConductor: troy shut up and build!
[2012-11-04 01:28:18] Troy_Hinkle: i was demoted for a shit reason im going to
[2012-11-04 01:28:18] > appeal
[2012-11-04 01:28:19] (IRC) Dankirk: Troy_Hinkle, if you were wrongfully demoted,
[2012-11-04 01:28:19] > you may appeal at http://forum.fcraft.net
[2012-11-04 01:28:22] ChaosConductor: dont make a appeal
[2012-11-04 01:28:27] Ninjacat101: Alright
[2012-11-04 01:28:29] ChaosConductor: okay fine make an appeal then
[2012-11-04 01:28:31] Troy_Hinkle: undo it
[2012-11-04 01:28:32] Ninjacat101: if you feel you were demoted unfairly
[2012-11-04 01:28:36] ChaosConductor: we will all see
[2012-11-04 01:28:37] Ninjacat101: No
[2012-11-04 01:28:49] Troy_Hinkle: lmao i got it, you are hiding evidence, just as
[2012-11-04 01:28:49] > bad
[2012-11-04 01:28:50] Ninjacat101: Because the reason you were demoted wasn't for
[2012-11-04 01:28:50] > the grief
[2012-11-04 01:28:50] ChaosConductor: but ur appeal only should include words!
[2012-11-04 01:28:57] You were muted by Ninjacat101 for 5m0s
[2012-11-04 01:29:10] Ninjacat101: Calm down a bit then we can talk
[2012-11-04 01:29:13] ChaosConductor: troy u were demoted for abusing the kick
[2012-11-04 01:29:13] > command!
[2012-11-04 01:29:20] ChaosConductor: you used it while i was on
[2012-11-04 01:29:23] Ninjacat101: as I was saying, you were demoted for command
[2012-11-04 01:29:23] > abuse
[2012-11-04 01:29:23] (IRC) Dankirk: Ninjacat101, if you were wrongfully demoted,
[2012-11-04 01:29:23] > you may appeal at http://forum.fcraft.net
[2012-11-04 01:29:29] Ninjacat101: I'm not saying he wasn't griefing
[2012-11-04 01:29:30] ChaosConductor: ninja im involved in this right?
[2012-11-04 01:29:33] Ninjacat101: or anything of the sort
[2012-11-04 01:29:36] ChaosConductor: ninja do !ignoreme
[2012-11-04 01:29:37] (IRC) Troy_ joined #fCraft.server
[2012-11-04 01:29:37] Player qtey101 connected again, joined Builder175

so anyways my point im trying to make is that I was demoted to taking initiative when the others such as swakamn and ChaosConductor would not do anything, the other kicks I have done are irrelevant to this as ninja was not around and does not have any logical reason to demote me regarding those

Sorry for the extensive WoM chatlogs those were only evidence to support what I am saying so none of the people who were in on this can change the story around.

and just to put this picture in look who gets mad at me for kicking he is not in the main world he is off doing another thing while staff is not on, he is highest visible rank to me.

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Re: Demotion Appeal- Troy_Hinkle

Post by swakamn »

oh troy why do you only paste in the things that you want in there . why not the whole story? if u took notice u are not allowd to kick when vet+ are online as u noticed me and chaos were online and chaos was asking on wat to do with this . u were demoted because u kicked a player when u were not allowd to . next time just let the vet+ deal with it . dont get me wrong i do see ur point but you also have to know u should have let us deal with it . and u wer demoted for breaking a rule . 2 wrongs dont make a right

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Re: Demotion Appeal- Troy_Hinkle

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two wrongs do not make a right i see that, but stopping a wrong is a right usually, and his wrong was never dealt with am i right?

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Re: Demotion Appeal- Troy_Hinkle

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it would have been dealt with if u hadnt of taken matters into ur own hands . he was going to be dealt with until u kicked him . how can we deal with things properly wen we dont get a chance . should have just left it and u wouldnt have been demoted

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Re: Demotion Appeal- Troy_Hinkle

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Everyone except for Ninjacat stop fucking replying.
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Re: Demotion Appeal- Troy_Hinkle

Post by Ninjacat101 »

I demoted you because I felt you were not following the rules of our server, nothing els. Straight from /rules builder "Do not kick players unless there are NO ops online.". Atoxic was online at the time as were 2 veterans, and I was watching from IRC which clearly shows you broke a server rule which was the 4th time you had done so. You were promoted to builder 2 days ago and since then have kicked 4 players, 3 of which I have watched and they were all questionable and you had been given more than enough warning that you should not kick. You broke server rules and ignored staff multiple times which I feel warrants the demotion.

Denied for now.
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Re: Demotion Appeal- Troy_Hinkle

Post by Troy »

they were not questionable as another super operator got on and pointed out to the staff
(IRC) Kev: [17:18] <FCB> Troy_Hinkle: camodg is griefer just
[2012-11-03 10:19:33] > saying
(IRC) Kev: [17:18] <FCB> Troy_Hinkle: anthony is griefing

there are two of those "questionable" one and it seems like the third i was already yelled at by another superoperator, not sure which

just to put this in also- viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4

and i understand your point of view, I guess I did kinda go over on it but I am staff on another server and usually if your staff you have to be able to make your own decisions when the time calls for it which is why in the reason I said "grief.. wait for ninja" while the vet was yelling at an operator who was not responding claiming he was offline or not there

[2012-11-04 02:04:00] (IRC) toxicsleep: don't think i even was online

so basically the ones who were online where two vets who could not think for themselves.

well anyways thanks for the quick reply of a no for a decent appeal but oh well its life got to get over it.

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