Demotion appeal Troy (reattempt)

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Demotion appeal Troy (reattempt)

Post by Troy »

When: 11/4/12
Who: Ninjacat
Reason Given: "Demotion reason: Kick abuse"

why i should be re-promoted-
Why i got demoted was over my head, it seems like when I take initiative to help out one way or another i get threatened demotion, I see this guy log in and I simply /Info him and it turns out his ratio is 1- aprox. 150 in 1 min so i say something and like usual its ignored untill i teleport to him then everyone jumps into it and Ninjacat said something that he was going to check it out but i remember another staff stating that using a program to grief is instant ban

[2012-11-03 19:14:04] (IRC) Ninjacpu: Chaos
[2012-11-03 19:14:07] Block #1 marked at (171,85,60). Place mark #2.
[2012-11-03 19:14:10] (IRC) Ninjacpu: Any tool assited griefing
[2012-11-03 19:14:11] (IRC) Ninjacpu: aka
[2012-11-03 19:14:12] Cuboid/Normal(Air): Processing ~77 blocks.
[2012-11-03 19:14:12] Cuboid/Normal(Air): Finished in 0s, updated 33 blocks.
[2012-11-03 19:14:14] (IRC) Ninjacpu: WoM
[2012-11-03 19:14:15] Player qiapaoki joined GuestPixelArt
[2012-11-03 19:14:17] (IRC) Ninjacpu: is an instant ban
- chat log of 11-3-12

so i kick him as the veteran who is suppost to be taking charge is yelling an operator who is away during the incident to have permission.

ChaosConductor: do i ban mini craft?
[2012-11-04 01:17:55] ChaosConductor: toxicz1
[2012-11-04 01:17:58] ChaosConductor: toxic't
[2012-11-04 01:17:58] Troy_Hinkle: has to be using autoclicker
[2012-11-04 01:18:00] ChaosConductor: roxic
[2012-11-04 01:18:04] ChaosConductor: toxic
[2012-11-04 01:18:21] minicraftguy: this is for being a dick head before
[2012-11-04 01:18:21] Joined world main
[2012-11-04 01:18:21] ChaosConductor: Atoxiclunchbox! do i can him?
[2012-11-04 01:18:27] Please specify a kick reason.
[2012-11-04 01:18:29] ChaosConductor: wut u mean mini?
[2012-11-04 01:18:29] (IRC) Ninjacat: I'll get on give me a sec
[2012-11-04 01:18:34] Player ChaosConductor joined main
[2012-11-04 01:18:36] minicraftguy was kicked by Troy_Hinkle: grief... wait
[2012-11-04 01:18:36] > for ninja

but shortly after that i get demoted and turns out this guy is free to go, almost like i shot some guy breaking into my house but he gets to leave to the hospital and after that he is free

Info of person i kicked

About minicraftguy: Last seen 41m59s ago (Kick)
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Free account, 1 logins since 4 Nov 2012.
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] 1 accounts (1 banned) on IP: minecraftguy56*
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Built 1; deleted 360 blocks; wrote 2 messages.
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Got kicked 1 times. Last kick 41m59s ago by Troy_Hinkle
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Kick reason: grief... wait for ninja
[2012-11-04 01:00:54] Rank is guest (default).

and when i try to get ninja to undo his actions its like he is hiding something, I had a picture of the grief but my computer shut off as i had to go do something but this is what he said when i asked him to undo his last action so i could get a picture of the grief.

[2012-11-04 01:27:06] 3m20s ago: Ninjacat101 placed Iron (UndoneOther)
[2012-11-04 01:27:16] Troy_Hinkle: ninjacat placed iron undoneother
[2012-11-04 01:27:22] Ninjacat101: Yep
[2012-11-04 01:27:25] Troy_Hinkle: undo your actions for 4 min
[2012-11-04 01:27:25] Ninjacat101: as I said
[2012-11-04 01:27:26] swakamn: is there a way to match ip adress with and online
[2012-11-04 01:27:26] > player and t
[2012-11-04 01:27:28] Troy_Hinkle: from minicraftguy
[2012-11-04 01:27:30] swakamn: offline?
[2012-11-04 01:27:36] Ninjacat101: There is no point
[2012-11-04 01:27:41] Troy_Hinkle: yea there is
[2012-11-04 01:27:42] Troy_Hinkle: undo it
[2012-11-04 01:27:46] Troy_Hinkle: so i have evidence
[2012-11-04 01:27:49] Ninjacat101: for?
[2012-11-04 01:27:53] Troy_Hinkle: appeal
[2012-11-04 01:27:55] Ninjacat101: .
[2012-11-04 01:27:57] ChaosConductor: troy, shut up and make an appeal
[2012-11-04 01:27:59] Ninjacat101: Appealing what exactly?
[2012-11-04 01:28:00] Ninjacat101: No
[2012-11-04 01:28:03] Troy_Hinkle: i need evidence
[2012-11-04 01:28:04] Ninjacat101: Don't make an appeal
[2012-11-04 01:28:07] Troy_Hinkle: i am
[2012-11-04 01:28:17] ChaosConductor: troy shut up and build!
[2012-11-04 01:28:18] Troy_Hinkle: i was demoted for a shit reason im going to
[2012-11-04 01:28:18] > appeal
[2012-11-04 01:28:19] (IRC) Dankirk: Troy_Hinkle, if you were wrongfully demoted,
[2012-11-04 01:28:19] > you may appeal at http://forum.fcraft.net
[2012-11-04 01:28:22] ChaosConductor: dont make a appeal
[2012-11-04 01:28:27] Ninjacat101: Alright
[2012-11-04 01:28:29] ChaosConductor: okay fine make an appeal then
[2012-11-04 01:28:31] Troy_Hinkle: undo it
[2012-11-04 01:28:32] Ninjacat101: if you feel you were demoted unfairly
[2012-11-04 01:28:36] ChaosConductor: we will all see
[2012-11-04 01:28:37] Ninjacat101: No
[2012-11-04 01:28:49] Troy_Hinkle: lmao i got it, you are hiding evidence, just as
[2012-11-04 01:28:49] > bad
[2012-11-04 01:28:50] Ninjacat101: Because the reason you were demoted wasn't for
[2012-11-04 01:28:50] > the grief
[2012-11-04 01:28:50] ChaosConductor: but ur appeal only should include words!
[2012-11-04 01:28:57] You were muted by Ninjacat101 for 5m0s
[2012-11-04 01:29:10] Ninjacat101: Calm down a bit then we can talk
[2012-11-04 01:29:13] ChaosConductor: troy u were demoted for abusing the kick
[2012-11-04 01:29:13] > command!
[2012-11-04 01:29:20] ChaosConductor: you used it while i was on
[2012-11-04 01:29:23] Ninjacat101: as I was saying, you were demoted for command
[2012-11-04 01:29:23] > abuse
[2012-11-04 01:29:23] (IRC) Dankirk: Ninjacat101, if you were wrongfully demoted,
[2012-11-04 01:29:23] > you may appeal at http://forum.fcraft.net
[2012-11-04 01:29:29] Ninjacat101: I'm not saying he wasn't griefing
[2012-11-04 01:29:30] ChaosConductor: ninja im involved in this right?
[2012-11-04 01:29:33] Ninjacat101: or anything of the sort
[2012-11-04 01:29:36] ChaosConductor: ninja do !ignoreme
[2012-11-04 01:29:37] (IRC) Troy_ joined #fCraft.server
[2012-11-04 01:29:37] Player qtey101 connected again, joined Builder175

so anyways my point im trying to make is that I was demoted to taking initiative when the others such as swakamn and ChaosConductor would not do anything, the other kicks I have done are irrelevant to this as ninja was not around and does not have any logical reason to demote me regarding those

Sorry for the extensive WoM chatlogs those were only evidence to support what I am saying so none of the people who were in on this can change the story around.

and just to put this picture in look who gets mad at me for kicking he is not in the main world he is off doing another thing while staff is not on, he is highest visible rank to me.


Edit from last attempt: as rules clearly state that builder cannot "kick unless there are no ops online." this rule was not broken therefor I do not know what rule I had broken.

I still have chat logs as i keep the same wom program.
"[2012-11-04 02:04:00] (IRC) toxicsleep: don't think i even was online"

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Re: Demotion appeal Troy (reattempt)

Post by Ninjacat101 »

Your attitude still hasn't changed which was the reason I denied your first appeal. Rules are there to be followed, not bent which is what you seem to think you can do. I'll promote you when I think you're ready, denied for now.
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Re: Demotion appeal Troy (reattempt)

Post by Troy »

I am confused on what rule I have broken, please quote it out of builder rules.

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