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in 54 days, mah Norton 360 sub. will run out on both W7's, and i need some helpful advice on whether to continue N 360 or go with another, preferably better, internet security suite. Got any recommendations?

PS: If anyone here mentions McAfee, Kaspersky, MSE, or how I should STFU and get linux/mac, I WILL internet-punch you in the face.
just sayin.

Avira Free, RKill, and being sensible. I would not be able to recommend any premium software as I have little experience with them.

oh, i forget to mention, currently on my exp. system, i run AVG free and Comodo firewall for internet security. I'm thinking of possibly using that for both systems.

EDIT: rkill seems quite interesting, a clever concept.

I use AVG and fine with it, I mean if you know what you're doing, I highly doubt you'd ever download a virus unknowingly. Only those suckers that honestly believe they are the 9,999,999 visitors get them

Also get Ubuntu, its almost freakin virus proof (waiting on my punch, bro bro )

@panda: you're lucky I already do, or I would have.

The issue isn't with me downloading viruses; it's my family. 7:

Symantex is pretty good. Or Symantec or whatever it is. I dunno. I use it, I don't care that much because my family is pretty savvy with online-ness.

Symatec and Norton are really the exact same thing, with Symatec being the company. Norton, I'd say from past experience, is pretty decent when it comes to larger families (like my 5 person household). If theyre not savvy, I suggest just buying Norton, it gives you the biggest bang for your buck protection wise.


FTFY(Fixed That For You)
kattoo

From a personal experience standpoint, I would still go with Avira over AVG, mainly since I've had both for around 2 years each, and I seemed to get a lot of shit through with AVG, yet have had no problems with Avira.

And indeed RKill is very useful, save it to desktop and rename it to 'iExplore.exe'. it has stopped every malware process I've had so far and even more useful, shows a text file of exactly where those processes were.

McAfee is neat or just install linux.

I use avg btw.

I use Avast, its free and i never had any problems. Using it for 3 years now.

I use Avira, never had problems.

Cartoonman wrote:oh, i forget to mention, currently on my exp. system, i run AVG free and Comodo firewall for internet security. I'm thinking of possibly using that for both systems.

EDIT: rkill seems quite interesting, a clever concept.

I've been using Avast, but I've used Comodo's everything (including virus scanner) before with no issues.

Get McAfee, Kaspersky or MSE. On the other hand, you could always get linux or a mac.

Actually, just get anything but Norton that you can find a review for on CNET.

hmm, thanks for the feedback guys. very interesting.

btw,

Thanks kattoo

But Cartoon, where's my internet punch, I haven't had one ina while

I used various solutions over the years. The one I used for the longest time was probably Eset Nod32 until I realized that some virii slipped by while other programs reported false positives to no end and slowed down the system to shit.

In the end when I get a virus I get my rootkit hook analyzer out, check common Registry entries and whatever - I haven't seen a single virus so far that I couldn't have removed manually and am making regular backups anyway. :-P

Trend Micro HijackThis FTW!

Using Avast, never had problems with it.

Also, look at AV-Comparatives...

According to a pretty recent test Avira or Avast look pretty promising:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/en/compa ... ction-test

Trend Micro looks fast but 96.6% detection rate looks a bit crappy to me considering Nod32 has a higher detection rate and failed me multiple times.

If you want to go with an Anti-Vir, might just as well go with the one with the highest detection rates among the Advanced+ ones. AVIRA seems like a solid product overall offering very good detection, speed and relatively few false positives. It's also cheap with the full version costing just $25 per year (and a free version being available too).

I've been using Nod32 for years. I always found it to be effective and efficient.
As for false positives... That is a bit of a problem, but Version 5 seems to have made some steps to fix that.

As for speed? Nod32 is written in machine code, so it's working on the bare metal of your system.
The benefits of this is debatable as compilers have improved and so has the hardware.

As a test... I did a full virus scan on my 2x 60gb SSD's in Raid 0 and it took about 4 Minuets and 37 seconds, granted SSD's are screaming fast with low access times so its to be expected.
It also pegged 1 of my cores at about 70% while scanning so it's not all that CPU hungry.

Desosus wrote:Trend Micro HijackThis FTW!

This.

I use Avast, and then I make short work of anything that slips through with some hijack this magic. Just be sure you know EXACTLY what you're doing before messing around with it.

wow, thanks for the feedback. I'll def. be czeching avira and rediscovering avast.

as for TM HJT, I already has it, even though I'm still not sure of what it even sez. :L

i've heard interesting things about NOD32. this was back when i used A-Squared (now Emsisoft apparently), but I mainly stuck to AVG/Avast after my olde XP system got fubar'd by a virus somehow. If i remember correctly, thanks to my douchebaggery classholeness bastardness idioticy, i pissed off this 'hacker' that sent a virus to me somehow. I'm still not entirely sure if i found it, but i did kill the ethernet after he said that, just to be safe 7:

I used to run Trend Micro and I never had any problems with that and if anything did get past, I just ran Trend micro housecall, which is the virus scanner over the internet.

Basically you dont really need an anti-virus if u dont do stupid shit on the net

Also i suggest you get sandboxie control, its great for opening risky ass files.

NOD32's claim to fame is that it probably has the best heuristics engine out there, meaning that it can identify virii without them being present on its signature file. Other anti-virus solutions also have systems of this kind but they are not as good or fast as NOD32.

NOD32 is sadly no longer the fastest AV either as seen on the site I linked to.